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		<title>By: M</title>
		<link>http://dangerouslyirrelevant.org/2008/10/can-a-computer.html/comment-page-1#comment-11857</link>
		<dc:creator>M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 05:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the student would definitely have to be a &quot;self-learner&quot;, but yes, definitely.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the student would definitely have to be a &#8220;self-learner&#8221;, but yes, definitely.</p>
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		<title>By: Eloise</title>
		<link>http://dangerouslyirrelevant.org/2008/10/can-a-computer.html/comment-page-1#comment-11858</link>
		<dc:creator>Eloise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 05:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Surely it depends on what they&#039;re learning?

&quot;What is a radian?&quot; is fact based learning. It certainly has its place, but it much easier to develop computer-based resources for this than &quot;Why use radians?&quot; and other questions that indicate deeper learning or similar where a human to pose awkward questions, check out the concepts and correct misconceptions and so on is still king I think.

Can a computer teach certainly things better than a human? Yes, absolutely. Are we human teachers obsolete? Not yet - and maybe having good computer based learning resources to deal with many students will help the teachers focus on the less able and raise their standards whilst still challenging the more able ones.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Surely it depends on what they&#8217;re learning?</p>
<p>&#8220;What is a radian?&#8221; is fact based learning. It certainly has its place, but it much easier to develop computer-based resources for this than &#8220;Why use radians?&#8221; and other questions that indicate deeper learning or similar where a human to pose awkward questions, check out the concepts and correct misconceptions and so on is still king I think.</p>
<p>Can a computer teach certainly things better than a human? Yes, absolutely. Are we human teachers obsolete? Not yet &#8211; and maybe having good computer based learning resources to deal with many students will help the teachers focus on the less able and raise their standards whilst still challenging the more able ones.</p>
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		<title>By: Wesley Fryer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wesley Fryer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 05:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Scott:

Rather than ask &quot;Can a computer lecture better than a human?&quot; I think a better question is &quot;Can a blended learning context be more engaging, powerful, and effective to support cognitive growth and development than traditional, face-to-face instruction?&quot; The answer is clearly a resounding yes. I am betting your interaction and conversations with your daughter during this learning process were very important to the final outcomes. The mere existence of this digital artifact was not sufficient to create the learning experience. Your guidance as a facilitator was also important.

Good questions and thoughts. Can&#039;t wait to share your K12Online08 preso with the world! Now I need to read Christensen&#039;s books too!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scott:</p>
<p>Rather than ask &#8220;Can a computer lecture better than a human?&#8221; I think a better question is &#8220;Can a blended learning context be more engaging, powerful, and effective to support cognitive growth and development than traditional, face-to-face instruction?&#8221; The answer is clearly a resounding yes. I am betting your interaction and conversations with your daughter during this learning process were very important to the final outcomes. The mere existence of this digital artifact was not sufficient to create the learning experience. Your guidance as a facilitator was also important.</p>
<p>Good questions and thoughts. Can&#8217;t wait to share your K12Online08 preso with the world! Now I need to read Christensen&#8217;s books too!</p>
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		<title>By: sylvia martinez</title>
		<link>http://dangerouslyirrelevant.org/2008/10/can-a-computer.html/comment-page-1#comment-11860</link>
		<dc:creator>sylvia martinez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 05:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The other commenters are right. The question is, why is it that &quot;.. 80 to 85 percent of classroom work is low-level factual and procedural work.&quot;

That&#039;s the problem.

And it&#039;s not as simple as &quot;she learned from the computer.&quot; You played a role, as did the conversation you had while you explored, and the interest you showed as you did this together.

By the way, if you and your daughter liked that site, you&#039;ll both love the Math Forum. Be sure to look at Ask Dr. Math and the Puzzles. http://mathforum.org/
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The other commenters are right. The question is, why is it that &#8220;.. 80 to 85 percent of classroom work is low-level factual and procedural work.&#8221;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s the problem.</p>
<p>And it&#8217;s not as simple as &#8220;she learned from the computer.&#8221; You played a role, as did the conversation you had while you explored, and the interest you showed as you did this together.</p>
<p>By the way, if you and your daughter liked that site, you&#8217;ll both love the Math Forum. Be sure to look at Ask Dr. Math and the Puzzles. <a href="http://mathforum.org/" rel="nofollow">http://mathforum.org/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Scott McLeod</title>
		<link>http://dangerouslyirrelevant.org/2008/10/can-a-computer.html/comment-page-1#comment-11861</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott McLeod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 05:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We are finding that large chunks of work that formerly needed to be done by people now can be done by software: filling out expense reports, registering new insurance accounts, evaluating mortgage applications, etc. Even high-end occupations that we think of as requiring cognitive complexity - like accountants (tax preparation software) and attorneys (legal document preparation software) - are finding to the dismay of their egos and their pocketbooks that substantial portions of their work CAN be routinized and ARE being replaced by software.

Teachers will NOT be immune from this. If a teacher is just going to stand up and lecture to students, a computer arguably can often do that better. If students are just going to sit at their desk, read a book chapter, and answer questions at the end (or fill out a worksheet), a computer arguably can do that better and/or make that more interesting and/or make that more efficient. And so on... I think we could collectively identify a number of aspects of teachers&#039; jobs that are routine cognitive tasks that have the potential for being replaced by software (c.f. essay grading software or swipe cards / card readers for taking attendance). Why not have computers do those tasks and use our expensive humans for the complex things that software can&#039;t do? I think this is probably a good thing, because it frees up our teachers to do the important stuff.

FYI, as often is the case in the blogosphere, someone else has written about this in the past. Check out Hank Horkoff&#039;s old post:

http://snipurl.com/hank2007
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We are finding that large chunks of work that formerly needed to be done by people now can be done by software: filling out expense reports, registering new insurance accounts, evaluating mortgage applications, etc. Even high-end occupations that we think of as requiring cognitive complexity &#8211; like accountants (tax preparation software) and attorneys (legal document preparation software) &#8211; are finding to the dismay of their egos and their pocketbooks that substantial portions of their work CAN be routinized and ARE being replaced by software.</p>
<p>Teachers will NOT be immune from this. If a teacher is just going to stand up and lecture to students, a computer arguably can often do that better. If students are just going to sit at their desk, read a book chapter, and answer questions at the end (or fill out a worksheet), a computer arguably can do that better and/or make that more interesting and/or make that more efficient. And so on&#8230; I think we could collectively identify a number of aspects of teachers&#8217; jobs that are routine cognitive tasks that have the potential for being replaced by software (c.f. essay grading software or swipe cards / card readers for taking attendance). Why not have computers do those tasks and use our expensive humans for the complex things that software can&#8217;t do? I think this is probably a good thing, because it frees up our teachers to do the important stuff.</p>
<p>FYI, as often is the case in the blogosphere, someone else has written about this in the past. Check out Hank Horkoff&#8217;s old post:</p>
<p><a href="http://snipurl.com/hank2007" rel="nofollow">http://snipurl.com/hank2007</a></p>
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		<title>By: Joel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 05:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All questions about the 80%-85% factual recall aside (because I think THAT is the heart of the issue), I would ask:

When the animation realizes that you are not quite understanding the issue, what does it do differently for you?

(Sometimes we underestimate the human element and art behind what good teachers do.)

That being said, there is no question in my mind that multimedia type experiences can be more powerful than (what is the opposite word?) monomedia experiences.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All questions about the 80%-85% factual recall aside (because I think THAT is the heart of the issue), I would ask:</p>
<p>When the animation realizes that you are not quite understanding the issue, what does it do differently for you?</p>
<p>(Sometimes we underestimate the human element and art behind what good teachers do.)</p>
<p>That being said, there is no question in my mind that multimedia type experiences can be more powerful than (what is the opposite word?) monomedia experiences.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Dyer</title>
		<link>http://dangerouslyirrelevant.org/2008/10/can-a-computer.html/comment-page-1#comment-11863</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason Dyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 05:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How is this different from, say, finding the material in a well-written book? Yes, there are differences, but -- the ability to bypass a teacher is hardly a new thing.

Incidentally, I can guarantee I can explain radians better than the video you just linked. Additionally can you answer the questions:

What are the drawbacks to the radian measure? What situations will you use a radian and what situations will you use a degree? What does the system of radians indicate that pi is in some sense &quot;wrong&quot; and the constant really should&#039;ve been what we call 2 times pi?

Of course I could make a video telling you all that. But I would be telling; as a teacher I can lead you to get those answers above on your own.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How is this different from, say, finding the material in a well-written book? Yes, there are differences, but &#8212; the ability to bypass a teacher is hardly a new thing.</p>
<p>Incidentally, I can guarantee I can explain radians better than the video you just linked. Additionally can you answer the questions:</p>
<p>What are the drawbacks to the radian measure? What situations will you use a radian and what situations will you use a degree? What does the system of radians indicate that pi is in some sense &#8220;wrong&#8221; and the constant really should&#8217;ve been what we call 2 times pi?</p>
<p>Of course I could make a video telling you all that. But I would be telling; as a teacher I can lead you to get those answers above on your own.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott McLeod</title>
		<link>http://dangerouslyirrelevant.org/2008/10/can-a-computer.html/comment-page-1#comment-11864</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott McLeod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 05:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Jason: I think the difference is that the computer can deliver the instruction in a variety of ways, not just text.

@Joel: If we build the learning activity right (not like the Wisconsin Online example), then it can adjust itself to the learner&#039;s success or lack thereof (like a video game does).

@Joel: Right. I think you should be doing the hard stuff. But the computer could do the initial instruction and get most of the kids to the place where you want them to be for the harder stuff. And instead of using your time for the intro stuff too, you could have done something else with your valuable time (like work with a few kids one-on-one). Or this could be their homework instead of using valuable class time...
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Jason: I think the difference is that the computer can deliver the instruction in a variety of ways, not just text.</p>
<p>@Joel: If we build the learning activity right (not like the Wisconsin Online example), then it can adjust itself to the learner&#8217;s success or lack thereof (like a video game does).</p>
<p>@Joel: Right. I think you should be doing the hard stuff. But the computer could do the initial instruction and get most of the kids to the place where you want them to be for the harder stuff. And instead of using your time for the intro stuff too, you could have done something else with your valuable time (like work with a few kids one-on-one). Or this could be their homework instead of using valuable class time&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Gilbert</title>
		<link>http://dangerouslyirrelevant.org/2008/10/can-a-computer.html/comment-page-1#comment-11865</link>
		<dc:creator>Gilbert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 05:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The computer offers multi-modal learning opportunities – so rather than having the need for an adaptive teacher, the students can just shift through the learning style they prefer. As well as ‘rapidly prototyping’ solutions and getting instant feedback – and if written like a great video game then the system will teach in motivationally sized sections set by the learners ability.With much more positive reinforcement than the average teacher of 30+ students could provide.

It is simple: ‘Any teacher who is replaced by a computer deserves to be!’

My question is are we really seeing ‘education’ through these isolated (as opposed to digital extensions of the analogue classroom) online systems or is it just ‘trainning’?

Education takes a lot of &#039;human&#039;.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The computer offers multi-modal learning opportunities – so rather than having the need for an adaptive teacher, the students can just shift through the learning style they prefer. As well as ‘rapidly prototyping’ solutions and getting instant feedback – and if written like a great video game then the system will teach in motivationally sized sections set by the learners ability.With much more positive reinforcement than the average teacher of 30+ students could provide.</p>
<p>It is simple: ‘Any teacher who is replaced by a computer deserves to be!’</p>
<p>My question is are we really seeing ‘education’ through these isolated (as opposed to digital extensions of the analogue classroom) online systems or is it just ‘trainning’?</p>
<p>Education takes a lot of &#8216;human&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Dyer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason Dyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 05:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I realize the book *medium* is different, but the conceptual idea of learning from a different source from a teacher is the same.

Dynamic adjustment, on the other hand ...

If we build the learning activity right (not like the Wisconsin Online example), then it can adjust itself to the learner&#039;s success or lack thereof (like a video game does).

... is indeed different from a book. That&#039;s the PLATO software, essentially.

From my experience it is great in some cases but it does have limits.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I realize the book *medium* is different, but the conceptual idea of learning from a different source from a teacher is the same.</p>
<p>Dynamic adjustment, on the other hand &#8230;</p>
<p>If we build the learning activity right (not like the Wisconsin Online example), then it can adjust itself to the learner&#8217;s success or lack thereof (like a video game does).</p>
<p>&#8230; is indeed different from a book. That&#8217;s the PLATO software, essentially.</p>
<p>From my experience it is great in some cases but it does have limits.</p>
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