Comments on: Cell phone cameras in the K-12 classroom: Punishable offenses or student-citizen journalism? http://dangerouslyirrelevant.org/2008/03/cell-phone-came.html Technology, leadership, and the future of schools Wed, 08 Feb 2012 23:00:32 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Celeste's Blog » Blog Archive » Teacher baiting with mobile phones http://dangerouslyirrelevant.org/2008/03/cell-phone-came.html/comment-page-3#comment-66269 Celeste's Blog » Blog Archive » Teacher baiting with mobile phones Thu, 13 Oct 2011 12:13:14 +0000 http://annahein.com/2008/03/cell-phone-came.html#comment-66269 [...] say that the above incident can be considered an extreme case, but videos such as the ones posted here , can make any teacher think twice about allowing kids carry these devices in their [...] [...] say that the above incident can be considered an extreme case, but videos such as the ones posted here , can make any teacher think twice about allowing kids carry these devices in their [...]

]]> By: Juxtaposition | Free The Animal http://dangerouslyirrelevant.org/2008/03/cell-phone-came.html/comment-page-3#comment-62840 Juxtaposition | Free The Animal Tue, 20 Sep 2011 19:40:59 +0000 http://annahein.com/2008/03/cell-phone-came.html#comment-62840 [...] had intended to blog about this collection of cell phone videos (link: Seth Godin) taken in public school classrooms that, really, resemble more the monkey cages [...] [...] had intended to blog about this collection of cell phone videos (link: Seth Godin) taken in public school classrooms that, really, resemble more the monkey cages [...]

]]> By: sKabachia http://dangerouslyirrelevant.org/2008/03/cell-phone-came.html/comment-page-3#comment-53902 sKabachia Wed, 19 Jan 2011 14:04:13 +0000 http://annahein.com/2008/03/cell-phone-came.html#comment-53902 @Steven (Stephen?) King Your teaching experience is clearly different from mine. I hope that I would have the fortitude to leave such atrocious conditions. I might even write a few horror novels about the trials of adolescence in a world so obviously overrun by evil and darkness. Peace. @Steven (Stephen?) King Your teaching experience is clearly different from mine. I hope that I would have the fortitude to leave such atrocious conditions. I might even write a few horror novels about the trials of adolescence in a world so obviously overrun by evil and darkness.

Peace.

]]> By: Steven King http://dangerouslyirrelevant.org/2008/03/cell-phone-came.html/comment-page-3#comment-53901 Steven King Wed, 19 Jan 2011 13:51:33 +0000 http://annahein.com/2008/03/cell-phone-came.html#comment-53901 This is a sad indictment of our society. Brainless maniacs come to our classrooms every day with no sense of discipline and no accountability. Teachers are constantly burdened to "do more" with less and realize, at the end of the day, whatever occurs in their classroom is their fault. Who's to blame? Parents? Society? We feed various stereotypes that make kids aspire to all the wrong things and many read two or more years below grade level. What is the solution? Accountability... Make a parent PAY for a failing grade by requiring payment for a re-do. Then, let's see how many kids "act a fool" in the classroom. I taught in public schools for four years. It is a nightmare developing on a run away train... This is a sad indictment of our society. Brainless maniacs come to our classrooms every day with no sense of discipline and no accountability. Teachers are constantly burdened to “do more” with less and realize, at the end of the day, whatever occurs in their classroom is their fault. Who’s to blame? Parents? Society? We feed various stereotypes that make kids aspire to all the wrong things and many read two or more years below grade level.

What is the solution? Accountability…

Make a parent PAY for a failing grade by requiring payment for a re-do. Then, let’s see how many kids “act a fool” in the classroom.

I taught in public schools for four years. It is a nightmare developing on a run away train…

]]> By: sKabachia http://dangerouslyirrelevant.org/2008/03/cell-phone-came.html/comment-page-3#comment-46280 sKabachia Thu, 16 Dec 2010 21:27:34 +0000 http://annahein.com/2008/03/cell-phone-came.html#comment-46280 I agree with Diana Brown, that the videos are horrible and sickening. I also agree that I would be ashamed of my children for behaving that way in any setting. However, I would like to think that I would be aware enough of my child's daily life that they would not be in a classroom where the teacher relies heavily on lectures, rote memory and ritualized adherence to nationalism. I hope I am able to steer my boys into classrooms where the teacher at least clarifies the reasons for them to learn they way they're being taught, not including "that's the way it's done." As for the existence of these videos: they are useful to teachers, if only to show us how pitiful we look when we stoop to the level of name-calling and insults too many of our students wallow in themselves. If we cannot consistently model decorum and civility for our students we have no right to expect them to outperform us in a situation where we are, ourselves, failing. I also hope that, should any of these teachers deliver a stimulating and enlightening lesson, their students will be just as quick to give them props online as they are to humiliate them. Peace. I agree with Diana Brown, that the videos are horrible and sickening. I also agree that I would be ashamed of my children for behaving that way in any setting. However, I would like to think that I would be aware enough of my child’s daily life that they would not be in a classroom where the teacher relies heavily on lectures, rote memory and ritualized adherence to nationalism. I hope I am able to steer my boys into classrooms where the teacher at least clarifies the reasons for them to learn they way they’re being taught, not including “that’s the way it’s done.”

As for the existence of these videos: they are useful to teachers, if only to show us how pitiful we look when we stoop to the level of name-calling and insults too many of our students wallow in themselves. If we cannot consistently model decorum and civility for our students we have no right to expect them to outperform us in a situation where we are, ourselves, failing. I also hope that, should any of these teachers deliver a stimulating and enlightening lesson, their students will be just as quick to give them props online as they are to humiliate them.

Peace.

]]> By: Diana Brown http://dangerouslyirrelevant.org/2008/03/cell-phone-came.html/comment-page-3#comment-34944 Diana Brown Fri, 22 Oct 2010 22:33:17 +0000 http://annahein.com/2008/03/cell-phone-came.html#comment-34944 This is horrible. It makes my stomach uneasy. These students are as out of control as the teachers yelling at them. As a mother, I would be horribly ashamed if my child were provoking a teacher like some of those students in the videos. On the other hand as an educator, I would be mortified to see myself in my weakest moment loosing a battle with self control as my students egged me on. I have been on both sides of the spectrum... The disrespectful, self-righteous/centered teenager, as well as the furious, ridiculous,ranting teacher. Both of which now make me feel ashamed. The students should most definitely not be applauded for their recordings, but the teachers need to be dealt with accordingly as well. Classroom management has gone out the window here. When you are in a position of leadership, be it a classroom or not, you cannot take low blows personally. You must keep your ego under wrap and let the students know that you're there to teach, not argue. These disgraceful power struggles, illuminated by youtube, are no-win situations. This is horrible. It makes my stomach uneasy. These students are as out of control as the teachers yelling at them. As a mother, I would be horribly ashamed if my child were provoking a teacher like some of those students in the videos. On the other hand as an educator, I would be mortified to see myself in my weakest moment loosing a battle with self control as my students egged me on. I have been on both sides of the spectrum… The disrespectful, self-righteous/centered teenager, as well as the furious, ridiculous,ranting teacher. Both of which now make me feel ashamed. The students should most definitely not be applauded for their recordings, but the teachers need to be dealt with accordingly as well. Classroom management has gone out the window here. When you are in a position of leadership, be it a classroom or not, you cannot take low blows personally. You must keep your ego under wrap and let the students know that you’re there to teach, not argue. These disgraceful power struggles, illuminated by youtube, are no-win situations.

]]> By: fred http://dangerouslyirrelevant.org/2008/03/cell-phone-came.html/comment-page-3#comment-31144 fred Wed, 29 Sep 2010 14:20:12 +0000 http://annahein.com/2008/03/cell-phone-came.html#comment-31144 lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol yes schools schould have cameras lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol yes schools schould have cameras

]]> By: maggie798 http://dangerouslyirrelevant.org/2008/03/cell-phone-came.html/comment-page-1#comment-28282 maggie798 Mon, 13 Sep 2010 02:31:30 +0000 http://annahein.com/2008/03/cell-phone-came.html#comment-28282 I did feel very sorry for each and every teacher who found themselves in this position. I do agree that it does take a lack in skill to get to the point where students are flagrantly disrespectful. Unfortunately, I'm not sure the teachers realized that. Before I entered my first classroom, I knew that the best way to deal with a troublesome one was to cut it from the herd, then discuss the behavior. No public embarrassment to the student and no one to impress. I did feel very sorry for each and every teacher who found themselves in this position. I do agree that it does take a lack in skill to get to the point where students are flagrantly disrespectful. Unfortunately, I’m not sure the teachers realized that. Before I entered my first classroom, I knew that the best way to deal with a troublesome one was to cut it from the herd, then discuss the behavior. No public embarrassment to the student and no one to impress.

]]> By: Parents, Students, And Teachers…Whose Right Is It Anyway? | SoYouWantToTeach.Com http://dangerouslyirrelevant.org/2008/03/cell-phone-came.html/comment-page-3#comment-20543 Parents, Students, And Teachers…Whose Right Is It Anyway? | SoYouWantToTeach.Com Fri, 02 Jul 2010 06:42:38 +0000 http://annahein.com/2008/03/cell-phone-came.html#comment-20543 [...] It started with one post on Dangerously Irrelevant of 7 videos taken on cell phones by students of teachers. [...] [...] It started with one post on Dangerously Irrelevant of 7 videos taken on cell phones by students of teachers. [...]

]]> By: The Deep-Seated Problems With Public Education | SoYouWantToTeach.Com http://dangerouslyirrelevant.org/2008/03/cell-phone-came.html/comment-page-3#comment-20501 The Deep-Seated Problems With Public Education | SoYouWantToTeach.Com Sun, 27 Jun 2010 21:18:54 +0000 http://annahein.com/2008/03/cell-phone-came.html#comment-20501 [...] }); }In case you haven’t already seen it, this post of teacher misbehavior caught on cell phones from Dangerously Irrelevant has been making the rounds. I saw it on Seth Godin’s blog, of all [...] [...] }); }In case you haven’t already seen it, this post of teacher misbehavior caught on cell phones from Dangerously Irrelevant has been making the rounds. I saw it on Seth Godin’s blog, of all [...]

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