Comments on: A tale of two posts: The vortex and the virus http://dangerouslyirrelevant.org/2008/03/a-tale-of-two-p.html Technology, leadership, and the future of schools Wed, 08 Feb 2012 23:00:32 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Ann Oro http://dangerouslyirrelevant.org/2008/03/a-tale-of-two-p.html/comment-page-1#comment-13176 Ann Oro Tue, 30 Nov 1999 05:00:00 +0000 http://annahein.com/2008/03/a-tale-of-two-p.html#comment-13176 Your post really caught my interest. It is very hard to get a grasp on how conversations link in and out of the blogsphere. Some posts really do gather a lot of conversation and it's amazing that Will Richardson's post generated 23,000 words. I also like the visual representation. Harder to get at are the links that spawn from a blog. I'm not very savvy with Technorati, but I can imagine it was an awful lot of work to generate your table. I read your post about the students captured teacher video. It was a bit painful to watch, actually. This has given me quite a bit to think about and process. Thanks. Your post really caught my interest. It is very hard to get a grasp on how conversations link in and out of the blogsphere. Some posts really do gather a lot of conversation and it’s amazing that Will Richardson’s post generated 23,000 words. I also like the visual representation.

Harder to get at are the links that spawn from a blog. I’m not very savvy with Technorati, but I can imagine it was an awful lot of work to generate your table. I read your post about the students captured teacher video. It was a bit painful to watch, actually.

This has given me quite a bit to think about and process. Thanks.

]]> By: Charlie A. roy http://dangerouslyirrelevant.org/2008/03/a-tale-of-two-p.html/comment-page-1#comment-13177 Charlie A. roy Tue, 30 Nov 1999 05:00:00 +0000 http://annahein.com/2008/03/a-tale-of-two-p.html#comment-13177 I enjoyed sharing your video post with my staff. It generated a great conversation about the role of the teacher as a model for appropriate behavior. It takes more guts and courage to stay cool and diffuse the situation. ODD kids often have a story that's led to their attitude. We need as professionals to understand this. Love your writing. Thanks for what you do! I enjoyed sharing your video post with my staff. It generated a great conversation about the role of the teacher as a model for appropriate behavior. It takes more guts and courage to stay cool and diffuse the situation. ODD kids often have a story that’s led to their attitude. We need as professionals to understand this.

Love your writing. Thanks for what you do!

]]> By: David http://dangerouslyirrelevant.org/2008/03/a-tale-of-two-p.html/comment-page-1#comment-13178 David Tue, 30 Nov 1999 05:00:00 +0000 http://annahein.com/2008/03/a-tale-of-two-p.html#comment-13178 I like your vortex and virus analogies. I was thinking of these "viral" blog posts as trees. The trunk of the tree is the initial post. The branches are the comments and primary blog reactions. Then you have branches coming off those branches which are the comments/blog reactions stemming off the primary comments/blog reactions. Unfortunately, along with the powerful and interesting connections that occur there's a downside in that these conversations become overwhelming to follow. I like your vortex and virus analogies.

I was thinking of these “viral” blog posts as trees. The trunk of the tree is the initial post. The branches are the comments and primary blog reactions. Then you have branches coming off those branches which are the comments/blog reactions stemming off the primary comments/blog reactions.

Unfortunately, along with the powerful and interesting connections that occur there’s a downside in that these conversations become overwhelming to follow.

]]> By: Clay Burell http://dangerouslyirrelevant.org/2008/03/a-tale-of-two-p.html/comment-page-1#comment-13179 Clay Burell Tue, 30 Nov 1999 05:00:00 +0000 http://annahein.com/2008/03/a-tale-of-two-p.html#comment-13179 Great post, Scott. When I encourage comments in my Open Threads, I try a third option: encouraging people to comment in the comment thread, AND to copy the comment into a post on their blog too, if they so desire. Yes, they can simply link to my post if they decide on the viral approach, but they don't contribute to the flow of ideas in the thread itself that way. And any stat-reader knows that readers rarely click on trackbacks in comments threads. But since we've all written comments on others' posts that we like enough to want to keep on our own blog, I really think copying and pasting a comment onto your own blog, and prefacing it with a simple "This is a comment I left on [link here]" is the best of both worlds. I wish more people would do it. Interesting process you went through to count the viral spread. I wonder if any of your readers know of any tools or methods to chart viral pathways (and count their 'hosts') automatically? I wonder if even an advanced Google search might not be the ticket? Great post, Scott. When I encourage comments in my Open Threads, I try a third option: encouraging people to comment in the comment thread, AND to copy the comment into a post on their blog too, if they so desire.

Yes, they can simply link to my post if they decide on the viral approach, but they don’t contribute to the flow of ideas in the thread itself that way. And any stat-reader knows that readers rarely click on trackbacks in comments threads.

But since we’ve all written comments on others’ posts that we like enough to want to keep on our own blog, I really think copying and pasting a comment onto your own blog, and prefacing it with a simple “This is a comment I left on [link here]” is the best of both worlds. I wish more people would do it.

Interesting process you went through to count the viral spread. I wonder if any of your readers know of any tools or methods to chart viral pathways (and count their ‘hosts’) automatically? I wonder if even an advanced Google search might not be the ticket?

]]> By: Scott McLeod http://dangerouslyirrelevant.org/2008/03/a-tale-of-two-p.html/comment-page-1#comment-13180 Scott McLeod Tue, 30 Nov 1999 05:00:00 +0000 http://annahein.com/2008/03/a-tale-of-two-p.html#comment-13180 @David: It took a LONG time to track down all of the linking posts, count comments, put each of them into Technorati, etc. I like the tree analogy but somewhere the metaphor also has to reflect that the links intertwine with each other (i.e., they cross-link to each other rather than just the original post). That's why it's such a giant hairball - trying to figure out who's linking with whom... @Clay: Great suggestions. I wish there were software for this too. One day there will be! @David: It took a LONG time to track down all of the linking posts, count comments, put each of them into Technorati, etc. I like the tree analogy but somewhere the metaphor also has to reflect that the links intertwine with each other (i.e., they cross-link to each other rather than just the original post). That’s why it’s such a giant hairball – trying to figure out who’s linking with whom…

@Clay: Great suggestions. I wish there were software for this too. One day there will be!

]]> By: Betty http://dangerouslyirrelevant.org/2008/03/a-tale-of-two-p.html/comment-page-1#comment-13181 Betty Tue, 30 Nov 1999 05:00:00 +0000 http://annahein.com/2008/03/a-tale-of-two-p.html#comment-13181 I loved being able to share your video post. I am sure that there have been a few moments when my students could have captured me in a moment of frustration. Everyone needs to be aware of the power of YouTube and cell phones.:) I loved being able to share your video post. I am sure that there have been a few moments when my students could have captured me in a moment of frustration. Everyone needs to be aware of the power of YouTube and cell phones.:)

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