Comments on: Michael Wesch dust-up http://dangerouslyirrelevant.org/2007/11/michael-wesch-d.html Technology, leadership, and the future of schools Wed, 08 Feb 2012 23:00:32 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Gary Stager http://dangerouslyirrelevant.org/2007/11/michael-wesch-d.html/comment-page-1#comment-13905 Gary Stager Tue, 30 Nov 1999 05:00:00 +0000 http://annahein.com/2007/11/michael-wesch-d.html#comment-13905 Hi Scott, The difference pre and post-blogosphere is that nobody would have seen the video a few years ago and therefore noted educators would not be labeling it "amazing" or applying special significance to it. I'm finding it difficult to write in such a way that readers understand that I don't care about this or that particular student project as much as I am alarmed by the irrational exuberance afforded such artifacts. Since the blogosphere is typically in the first-person, I struggle with "attacking the ball without attacking the player." All the best, Gary Hi Scott,

The difference pre and post-blogosphere is that nobody would have seen the video a few years ago and therefore noted educators would not be labeling it “amazing” or applying special significance to it.

I’m finding it difficult to write in such a way that readers understand that I don’t care about this or that particular student project as much as I am alarmed by the irrational exuberance afforded such artifacts.

Since the blogosphere is typically in the first-person, I struggle with “attacking the ball without attacking the player.”

All the best,

Gary

]]> By: Jeremy Aldrich http://dangerouslyirrelevant.org/2007/11/michael-wesch-d.html/comment-page-1#comment-13906 Jeremy Aldrich Tue, 30 Nov 1999 05:00:00 +0000 http://annahein.com/2007/11/michael-wesch-d.html#comment-13906 I read the links, and found Gary's opinion very knee-jerk. After thinking about it some more, I wrote a post trying to frame the whole issue in a different way. http://globalvirtual.blogspot.com/2007/11/elbonian-takeover.html I read the links, and found Gary’s opinion very knee-jerk. After thinking about it some more, I wrote a post trying to frame the whole issue in a different way. http://globalvirtual.blogspot.com/2007/11/elbonian-takeover.html

]]> By: Scott McLeod http://dangerouslyirrelevant.org/2007/11/michael-wesch-d.html/comment-page-1#comment-13907 Scott McLeod Tue, 30 Nov 1999 05:00:00 +0000 http://annahein.com/2007/11/michael-wesch-d.html#comment-13907 Gary, that's a great point. One of the things I note about my law school experience was that they did a great job of teaching us how to have fierce, intellectual conversations and disagreements without taking it personally. In other words, we could have a ferocious, no-holds barred (and phenomenal) conversation about some legal issue and then go out for a beer afterward, enlighted by the others' viewpoint. Sometimes the edublogosphere could benefit from a little more of that... Gary, that’s a great point. One of the things I note about my law school experience was that they did a great job of teaching us how to have fierce, intellectual conversations and disagreements without taking it personally. In other words, we could have a ferocious, no-holds barred (and phenomenal) conversation about some legal issue and then go out for a beer afterward, enlighted by the others’ viewpoint. Sometimes the edublogosphere could benefit from a little more of that…

]]> By: A. Mercer http://dangerouslyirrelevant.org/2007/11/michael-wesch-d.html/comment-page-1#comment-13908 A. Mercer Tue, 30 Nov 1999 05:00:00 +0000 http://annahein.com/2007/11/michael-wesch-d.html#comment-13908 It may be a "student" artifact, but there are few of those that have such wide circulation. Also, whether intended or not, this is a propaganda piece about education, and how it is out of sync with modern life. It's reached more people, and more importantly, more non-educators rather than the usual stakeholders that you, or Mr. Stager, reach. It may not read like a graduate thesis, or a Truffaut oeuvre, or even a "slick" political ad, but that will give it a real and genuine quality making it more believable to the general audience and therefore more effective. Mr. Stager may give it an "D" as a college level project, I give it an "A" as a college level speech and propaganda project. Political propaganda does not need to name a solution, it only needs to name a problem. Thanks for the spot to share my views... It may be a “student” artifact, but there are few of those that have such wide circulation. Also, whether intended or not, this is a propaganda piece about education, and how it is out of sync with modern life. It’s reached more people, and more importantly, more non-educators rather than the usual stakeholders that you, or Mr. Stager, reach. It may not read like a graduate thesis, or a Truffaut oeuvre, or even a “slick” political ad, but that will give it a real and genuine quality making it more believable to the general audience and therefore more effective. Mr. Stager may give it an “D” as a college level project, I give it an “A” as a college level speech and propaganda project. Political propaganda does not need to name a solution, it only needs to name a problem.
Thanks for the spot to share my views…

]]> By: A. Mercer http://dangerouslyirrelevant.org/2007/11/michael-wesch-d.html/comment-page-1#comment-13909 A. Mercer Tue, 30 Nov 1999 05:00:00 +0000 http://annahein.com/2007/11/michael-wesch-d.html#comment-13909 Jeremy's Elbonian education reforms post: a really nice piece of satire. Much more interesting than just writing a ten point rebuttal. More interesting for him to write, more interesting for me to read ;-). Jeremy’s Elbonian education reforms post: a really nice piece of satire. Much more interesting than just writing a ten point rebuttal. More interesting for him to write, more interesting for me to read ;-) .

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