Comments on: Just Say No to Wikipedia http://dangerouslyirrelevant.org/2007/11/just-say-no-to.html Technology, leadership, and the future of schools Wed, 08 Feb 2012 23:00:32 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: educationinformationonline.com » Blog Archive » Scott McLeod: If We Were Really Serious About Educational Technology http://dangerouslyirrelevant.org/2007/11/just-say-no-to.html/comment-page-1#comment-41871 educationinformationonline.com » Blog Archive » Scott McLeod: If We Were Really Serious About Educational Technology Fri, 26 Nov 2010 23:49:41 +0000 http://annahein.com/2007/11/just-say-no-to.html#comment-41871 [...] students to understand and contribute to the online information commons rather than just saying no to [...] [...] students to understand and contribute to the online information commons rather than just saying no to [...]

]]> By: Graham http://dangerouslyirrelevant.org/2007/11/just-say-no-to.html/comment-page-1#comment-28736 Graham Wed, 15 Sep 2010 18:06:27 +0000 http://annahein.com/2007/11/just-say-no-to.html#comment-28736 part of a kids education should be to learn what a is credible source regardless of the media in which it is presented. far too often our children are stuffed full of information instead of taught critical thinking skills. even a 5 year old has the ability to think critically. part of a kids education should be to learn what a is credible source regardless of the media in which it is presented. far too often our children are stuffed full of information instead of taught critical thinking skills. even a 5 year old has the ability to think critically.

]]> By: Jen Wagner http://dangerouslyirrelevant.org/2007/11/just-say-no-to.html/comment-page-1#comment-28719 Jen Wagner Wed, 15 Sep 2010 14:30:15 +0000 http://annahein.com/2007/11/just-say-no-to.html#comment-28719 We did not ban wikipedia but there was skepticism and a bit of bias, I admit. Then I saw this video by commoncraft (a site I trust very much for sharing correct information) and because of this video --- I (and many on staff) are more open to its possibility. http://www.commoncraft.com/wikipedia-video We did not ban wikipedia but there was skepticism and a bit of bias, I admit.

Then I saw this video by commoncraft (a site I trust very much for sharing correct information) and because of this video —

I (and many on staff) are more open to its possibility.

http://www.commoncraft.com/wikipedia-video

]]> By: Simon http://dangerouslyirrelevant.org/2007/11/just-say-no-to.html/comment-page-1#comment-13857 Simon Tue, 30 Nov 1999 05:00:00 +0000 http://annahein.com/2007/11/just-say-no-to.html#comment-13857 Bias is in our nature. When you think about it everything we say and do is bias in some way. Researchers etc have to make particular note NOT to be biased in there quest for understanding. A non-biased view of the world through any and very media, including your's and my blogs. That's the nature of the current age. As soon as you look through someone elses lense you come across 'thier version of reality'. Even when you look through your own; your views are biased based on your upbringing, background and experience. The enlightenment that comes through this digital media is that EVERYONE'S biased view is represented and through that amalgamation of viewpoints we reach a point called 'the balanced view' or at least I like to think so, but then I'm biased. Bias is in our nature. When you think about it everything we say and do is bias in some way. Researchers etc have to make particular note NOT to be biased in there quest for understanding.

A non-biased view of the world through any and very media, including your’s and my blogs. That’s the nature of the current age. As soon as you look through someone elses lense you come across ‘thier version of reality’. Even when you look through your own; your views are biased based on your upbringing, background and experience. The enlightenment that comes through this digital media is that EVERYONE’S biased view is represented and through that amalgamation of viewpoints we reach a point called ‘the balanced view’ or at least I like to think so, but then I’m biased.

]]> By: Tim http://dangerouslyirrelevant.org/2007/11/just-say-no-to.html/comment-page-1#comment-13858 Tim Tue, 30 Nov 1999 05:00:00 +0000 http://annahein.com/2007/11/just-say-no-to.html#comment-13858 Actually blocking Wikipedia, as opposed to simply discouraging its use by posting a sign, sends an incredibly bad message to teachers, students, and the community at large. Supposedly, we use electronic filters to keep out materials that are "harmful to children". Now we are placing a flawed but extremely useful web resource in that same category. What does that say about how educators approach both new technologies and the distribution of information? Nothing good, I would venture. Actually blocking Wikipedia, as opposed to simply discouraging its use by posting a sign, sends an incredibly bad message to teachers, students, and the community at large.

Supposedly, we use electronic filters to keep out materials that are “harmful to children”. Now we are placing a flawed but extremely useful web resource in that same category. What does that say about how educators approach both new technologies and the distribution of information?

Nothing good, I would venture.

]]> By: Michael McVey http://dangerouslyirrelevant.org/2007/11/just-say-no-to.html/comment-page-1#comment-13859 Michael McVey Tue, 30 Nov 1999 05:00:00 +0000 http://annahein.com/2007/11/just-say-no-to.html#comment-13859 http://www.nature.com/nature/britannica/index.html Wikipedia is an excellent starting point with many links embedded to more "formal" articles. What's next, ban Google searching? Grrrr. http://www.nature.com/nature/britannica/index.html

Wikipedia is an excellent starting point with many links embedded to more “formal” articles. What’s next, ban Google searching?

Grrrr.

]]> By: John Gross http://dangerouslyirrelevant.org/2007/11/just-say-no-to.html/comment-page-1#comment-13860 John Gross Tue, 30 Nov 1999 05:00:00 +0000 http://annahein.com/2007/11/just-say-no-to.html#comment-13860 I'm not sure it's Wikepedia itself that this librarian is campaigning against. Knowing kids the way I do it seems that they stop at Wikepedia and don't do any more research at all. They take it to be the know all, end all of online research. That would be my reason for banning its use too. I’m not sure it’s Wikepedia itself that this librarian is campaigning against. Knowing kids the way I do it seems that they stop at Wikepedia and don’t do any more research at all. They take it to be the know all, end all of online research. That would be my reason for banning its use too.

]]> By: Scott McLeod http://dangerouslyirrelevant.org/2007/11/just-say-no-to.html/comment-page-1#comment-13861 Scott McLeod Tue, 30 Nov 1999 05:00:00 +0000 http://annahein.com/2007/11/just-say-no-to.html#comment-13861 John, thanks for the comment. I appreciate hearing from folks that disagree with me. I'm struggling, however, with your comment because I can't figure out why you wouldn't just work on teaching students not to do what you describe. Let's say that you did ban Wikipedia like this district did. That still doesn't really solve your issue, does it (any more than it would to ban encyclopedias or news web sites or ... )? John, thanks for the comment. I appreciate hearing from folks that disagree with me. I’m struggling, however, with your comment because I can’t figure out why you wouldn’t just work on teaching students not to do what you describe. Let’s say that you did ban Wikipedia like this district did. That still doesn’t really solve your issue, does it (any more than it would to ban encyclopedias or news web sites or … )?

]]> By: Jim Gates http://dangerouslyirrelevant.org/2007/11/just-say-no-to.html/comment-page-1#comment-13862 Jim Gates Tue, 30 Nov 1999 05:00:00 +0000 http://annahein.com/2007/11/just-say-no-to.html#comment-13862 They MAY be fighting against those kids who stop at wikipedia, but I doubt it. Still, let's say that's the issue. Do they also block conservapedia? Do they then block ALL wikis? Just today I sent out a tip on a wikipedia page that is an EXCELLENT resource. http://tipline.blogspot.com/2007/11/tips-list-of-historical-anniversaries.html What a shame to block the good parts of wikipedia just because you're tired of fighting the fight to have the kids research other places. They MAY be fighting against those kids who stop at wikipedia, but I doubt it. Still, let’s say that’s the issue. Do they also block conservapedia? Do they then block ALL wikis?

Just today I sent out a tip on a wikipedia page that is an EXCELLENT resource. http://tipline.blogspot.com/2007/11/tips-list-of-historical-anniversaries.html What a shame to block the good parts of wikipedia just because you’re tired of fighting the fight to have the kids research other places.

]]> By: Ricky Glass http://dangerouslyirrelevant.org/2007/11/just-say-no-to.html/comment-page-1#comment-13863 Ricky Glass Tue, 30 Nov 1999 05:00:00 +0000 http://annahein.com/2007/11/just-say-no-to.html#comment-13863 This librarian needs to realize that we can restrict the sources students use for a particular assignment but the minute they leave the classroom, they will "Google it". As an educator (in Mathematics and Computer Science), I believe it is fine for students to use Wikipedia (and yes, even Google) as a starting point for research (both academic and recreational) but I also stress that it is important to to evaulate what they find and to use that information ethically. I am suprised that this librarian does not adhere to the ACRL standards of Information Literacy, which are critical to all disciplines and supports censorship. This librarian needs to realize that we can restrict the sources students use for a particular assignment but the minute they leave the classroom, they will “Google it”. As an educator (in Mathematics and Computer Science), I believe it is fine for students to use Wikipedia (and yes, even Google) as a starting point for research (both academic and recreational) but I also stress that it is important to to evaulate what they find and to use that information ethically.

I am suprised that this librarian does not adhere to the ACRL standards of Information Literacy, which are critical to all disciplines and supports censorship.

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